Common Downtime O1 FTSO, Fly2Sonic, Flare Ocean, Civil FTSO, Anon2

I mean the internet issue.

No critical server downtime according to PowerVPS according to message above.

ā€œAt the time, I was using PowerVPSā€ ā€¦ who are you using now?

Regarding the second evidence, ā€œI can say it is just a coincidenceā€. No, itā€™s not a coincidence that both providers operated for a total of 10hrs only separately and not together, with submissions switching between both providers as few as one epoch before going back to the other.

  1. Iā€™m still using PowerVPS since it is affordable. Once tried Contabo but network was not stableā€¦

  2. Iā€™m not god and I am not able to recall what exactly happened more than 8 months ago.


    I do know there was about 5 hrs of downtime on my end. Itā€™s possible I ran the provider script again at epoch 357881, and it crashed.
    If this issue had been addressed 8 months ago or last year, there might have been evidence of collusion, and we could have had a meaningful discussion about it - you guys would say ā€œyeah, it does make senseā€ or ā€œNo, you guys colluded!ā€.
    However, too much time has passed, and I donā€™t have any details to provide now.
    Iā€™m not someone who meticulously records everything daily, and I canā€™t remember events from more than 8 months ago.
    Iā€™m sorry for this.

Letā€™s look at the evidence today then and not worry about remembering from 8 months ago.

How can two providers alternate submissions for 10hrs, with one or the other submitting continuously, but not both at the same time? The likelihood of that happening is ZERO unless thereā€™s shared systems in place.

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Yeah, I can see my provider was down for 5 hrs but how can I know the stuff of O1?
I have nothing to say.

It seams to me that it would take a major outage at PowerVPS to effect 5+ host all at the same time.
Was this confirmed by PowerVPS?
The 10 hours of alternating submissions does not make sense to me. I agree the likelihood of this happening randomly is near 0.

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The connection has nothing to do with common hosting or thereā€™d be connections between all providers who use Hetzner, AWS, GCP.

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O1 told me awhile back to just focus on our algo success, so Iā€™ll stay out of this ā€“ however, I do find it strange that a FTSO based in brazil would register on Hostinger, host on hetzner / powervps on a server in finland and 2 weeks later another ftso does the same ā€“ probably just a coincidence:

Screenshot 2024-06-26 224937

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There does seem to be alot of similarities, One being Power VPS, do you know if they had network issues, from the power outage, and does powerVps have separate datacenter locations of their servers ? If so, do you guys know if your in the same datacenter or dispersed ?

This mikyoch Ā· GitHub was the dev behind Owl FTSO, who was caught up in the sToadz collusion ring (Hiro / Sirius / Ape FTSO / Love FTSO / HXK Oracle etc)

Here he mentions Fly2Sonic ā€¦

And it gets better ā€¦ Flare Ocean too.

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Whoaā€¦ what a trip down memory lane.

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this aged wellā€¦

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The amount of evidence of collusion here is quite stark and when accumulated together leaves little doubt in my mind that these providers are linked in more ways than one.

The responses received so far have been lacklustre at best and I cannot think of any legitimate reasons that would lead me to believe these issues are not a direct cause of them using shared resources for their submissions.

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The defending TSOā€™s have not supplied any concrete evidence to their support.

  • PowerVPS has no records of outages,
  • if it was a network issue a lot more nodes would be affected and not just those who are, surprisingly, using PowerVPS,
  • the back and forth nature of the submissions in such a synchronised way is highly unprobable and left unexplained.
    Bushi supports the proposal
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Very nice work Neil. Slam dunk

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The funny FTSO collusion show was started and detected by the community before I hopped into this area and I had started getting know about it gradually since most of topics in this forum have been mainly targeted to those colluders.

First, I should say I donā€™t know Stephen(github handle: mikyoch). Iā€™m very disappointed he exploited our brand and we are gonna take some actions against him.
Secondly, the scammer added our provider to his portfolio, so I agree that is enough you can think we colluded with him. But, take a look on his profile a bit longer! If he wants to claim he worked with Fly2sonic, he should provide more proof of his work. I still havenā€™t found it. I hope you guys can help me since better than me to see hidden things behind the scene.
At last, I canā€™t stop laughing. Yeah, letā€™s assume Stephen worked for Fly2Sonic.
Can it be a proof of collusion between F2S and Flareocean? Why didnā€™t he also added FlareOcean to his portfoilo? lol!
If someone wrote the word ā€œFTSO AUā€, is he also colluded with you?
Calm down, bro! You are too straightforward on providing evidences. You are trying to make others agree with you subjectively.
Rather than digging on old fishy history, I would focus on more meaningful stuff.

No worries, we can find so many examples like that between other providers. Dont be stupid.

He did, itā€™s there in the image if you look again.

Screenshot 2024-06-27 at 7.25.37 PM

Interesting that Stephenā€™s made the portfolio-v2 private all of a sudden so he must be pretty close to you guys. :wink:

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